***** Hand History for Game 630742832 ***** (Betfair)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 06, 12:17:34 ET 2010
Table Gemini 79 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: CAPTAIN 01 ( $31.10 USD )
Seat 2: SWINEFLU UK ( $54.67 USD )
Seat 3: Gowa ( $61.14 USD )
Seat 4: tomas2 ( $115.42 USD )
Seat 5: BrasilNut ( $91.57 USD )
Seat 6: clurg ( $36.65 USD )
tomas2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
BrasilNut posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BrasilNut [ 3s 3c ]
clurg raises [$1.75 USD]
CAPTAIN 01 calls [$1.75 USD]
SWINEFLU UK folds
Gowa folds
tomas2 calls [$1.50 USD]
BrasilNut calls [$1.25 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 3h, 9h ]
tomas2 bets [$7.00 USD]
BrasilNut raises [$18.00 USD]
clurg folds
CAPTAIN 01 raises [$29.35 USD]
tomas2 raises [$33.70 USD]
BrasilNut calls [$22.70 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
tomas2 bets [$72.97 USD]
BrasilNut calls [$49.12 USD]
tomas2 wins $23.85 USD
CAPTAIN 01 shows [Jh, Th ]
tomas2 shows [5h, Qh ]
BrasilNut shows [3s, 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
tomas2 wins $120.94 USD from main pot
tomas2 wins $92.05 USD from main pot
Pot Odds - 183 Big Bet Pot
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BrasilNut
, Jan 06 2010 12:48 PM
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Posted 06 January 2010 - 09:56 PM
My question:
Pot is offering me 3.4 / 1 (29%) but im only 24% for board to pair, should I still call in case he has lower set or stupidly overplayed overpair. Its too close anyway......
another question is if I should just jam on flop even if we are kinda deep. I was hoping he'd check check turn as there's an all in there.
Ouch I think this is biggest pot i've ever lost in terms of bb. One time baby pair up the board! Only thing I hate about nl is these hands which determine if you're gonna be up or down for the session.
Pot is offering me 3.4 / 1 (29%) but im only 24% for board to pair, should I still call in case he has lower set or stupidly overplayed overpair. Its too close anyway......
another question is if I should just jam on flop even if we are kinda deep. I was hoping he'd check check turn as there's an all in there.
Ouch I think this is biggest pot i've ever lost in terms of bb. One time baby pair up the board! Only thing I hate about nl is these hands which determine if you're gonna be up or down for the session.
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Posted 06 January 2010 - 09:57 PM
answer:
Taking into consideration: the 3h-flop texture, lead out psb 4-way, you being OOP ... what was the rationale for the 2.4x "minraise" (which accomplishes nothing) since all draws are forced to call it and better hands are calling/raising?
But that aside, as played after raising to $18, your decisions become purely mathematical.
$95 pot after SB 4bets (covering you) and costs $22.70 to call getting 4.2:1 on a 7-out 5.7:1 underdog draw (on flop) assuming villian likely flopped a flush as played. These are incorrect odds to chase. However, villian is unlikely to fold virtually any turn unless maybe a 4th heart so you can factor in implied odds of extra $49 if you hit the turn which now gives you 6.35:1 and thus a profitable call but puts you in an iffy spot if you brick the turn relative to your remaining stack and the pot.
On brick turn villian shoves (as expected) and $166.80 pot getting 3.4:1 on 10-out 3.6:1 underdog draw. Not getting proper odds but probably close enough to call especially after 45% stack invested. Your flop min-raise obviously got you in trouble and committed your stack.
You are insane to even contemplate 5-bet jamming flop with middle set in this spot after villian commits 43% of your stack with his 4-bet. If you were deeper like maybe 250-300xBB then maybe you can credibly turn your hand into a bluff with FE and represent an A-hi or K-hi flush especially since the 3rd guy with smaller stack already shoved over the top of you both. But not in this situation.
FWIW ... keep this hand in memory. Because if you DID flop the nut flush then you know how to play it perfectly ... exactly like how you played it below!
Taking into consideration: the 3h-flop texture, lead out psb 4-way, you being OOP ... what was the rationale for the 2.4x "minraise" (which accomplishes nothing) since all draws are forced to call it and better hands are calling/raising?
But that aside, as played after raising to $18, your decisions become purely mathematical.
$95 pot after SB 4bets (covering you) and costs $22.70 to call getting 4.2:1 on a 7-out 5.7:1 underdog draw (on flop) assuming villian likely flopped a flush as played. These are incorrect odds to chase. However, villian is unlikely to fold virtually any turn unless maybe a 4th heart so you can factor in implied odds of extra $49 if you hit the turn which now gives you 6.35:1 and thus a profitable call but puts you in an iffy spot if you brick the turn relative to your remaining stack and the pot.
On brick turn villian shoves (as expected) and $166.80 pot getting 3.4:1 on 10-out 3.6:1 underdog draw. Not getting proper odds but probably close enough to call especially after 45% stack invested. Your flop min-raise obviously got you in trouble and committed your stack.
You are insane to even contemplate 5-bet jamming flop with middle set in this spot after villian commits 43% of your stack with his 4-bet. If you were deeper like maybe 250-300xBB then maybe you can credibly turn your hand into a bluff with FE and represent an A-hi or K-hi flush especially since the 3rd guy with smaller stack already shoved over the top of you both. But not in this situation.
FWIW ... keep this hand in memory. Because if you DID flop the nut flush then you know how to play it perfectly ... exactly like how you played it below!
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